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Scientology as Personality Disorder

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I posted this rant yesterday, and found it missing when I came back today. After getting out my tin foil I emailed the web site, and got a very nice email from the site admin saying oops, they'd goofed and accidently it, and I could repost it. They lost the comments but had the rant. So here it is reposted.

And thanks for all who posted comments. Yes, i would consider North Koreans to be suffering many effects similar to a personality disorder.

So here's the original rant:

While reading through the definitions of personality disorders, it occurred to me that groups too can exhibit those traits. So as an exercise let's see how Scientology fares when looking over the characteristics of a personality disorder. Let's start with the characteristics common to all types of personality disorders. Quoted materials are from the NIH.gov website

"Symptoms have been present for an extended period of time, are inflexible and pervasive..."

The rules concerning scientology are inflexible, rigid and not subject to change or modification under any circumstances. The tech is perfect as it is, hence unchanging and unchangeable. In fact the scientology writings are considered sacred scriptures and to change them is one of the worst crimes scientology has.

"The symptoms have caused and continue to cause significant distress or negative consequences in different aspects of the person's life."

We can certainly see the distress and negative consequences of scientology. They are hounded in Europe, lawsuits are being filed for human trafficking in California and protesters show up on their doorsteps at least once a month to point out the abuses scientology engages in.

"Symptoms are seen in at least two of the following areas:
ìThoughts (ways of looking at the world, thinking about self or others, and interacting)
ìEmotions (appropriateness, intensity, and range of emotional functioning)
ìInterpersonal Functioning (relationships and interpersonal skills)
ìImpulse Control"

Scientology teaches their adherents that they will become Homo novus, new man, no longer Homo sapiens like the rest of us, and yet when confronted with the slightest confound even the highest level scientologist, the so called OT8s, collapse into name calling and curtain tech. They say they are the ones best able to communicate and yet when the situation calls for a dialog they instead rant and rave about how unfair and intolerant their opponents are. Scientology has NO honorable opponents and can have none because opposition to scientology is of itself cause for a scientologist to hate that person, to think the person is a suppressive person, evil.
So in general there is enough to think there is something to this line of thought. Next, let's look at the specifics of several personality disorders to see if we can diagnose scientology. Personality disorders are categorized into three types with several disorders in each category. So let's read through the lists and see what we find.

"Cluster A is characterized by odd, eccentric thinking or behavior" and include: Paranoid personality disorder, Schizoid personality disorder and Schizotypal personality disorder.

In reading through the list of symptoms for the Cluster A group, the schizoid types aren't relevant, but the paranoid disorder had some interesting symptoms.

"Distrust and suspicion of others"ójust read the CCHR website or realize that scientologists are taught that reporters and police are Merchants of Chaos
"Believing that others are trying to harm you"ósimple peaceful protests are considered terrorism
"Emotional detachment"ónot detachment so much as surgery, they are taught to excise all emotions under 2.0 on their Tone Scale.
"Hostility"óScientologists are taught to think in terms of black and white, good and bad, and to label everything they encounter as one or the other. So they can't avoid thinking their opponents are not just wrong but bad and evil.

"Cluster B. These are personality disorders characterized by dramatic, overly emotional thinking or behavior and include: Antisocial, Borderline, Histrionic, Narcissistic"

"The symptoms of antisocial personality disorder include a longstanding pattern (after the age of 15) of disregard for the rights of others. There is a failure to conform to society's norms and expectations that often results in numerous arrests or legal involvement as well as a history of deceitfulness where the individual attempts to con people or use trickery for personal profit."

These characteristics have been apparent long before scientology's fifteenth birthday, but around that time, 1965, was when the Fair Game policies were being made explicit.

Other symptoms include:
"Anger and arrogance"óinteracting with the typical scientologist at a protest is to see their philosophy laid out stark and plain for all to see. They either try to bull bait and intimidate or they run away. And for an example of arrogance watch the Tom Cruise video when he tells the world that only scientologists can help.

"Capable of acting witty and charming"ówhen it suits their purpose, meaning when they smell raw meat or some advantage to accrue to scientology they can indeed fake a good smile. They work with others when it suits their purpose.

"Good at flattery and manipulating other people's emotions"óoh yeah. How else do they get recruits other than love bombing and other fun methods. And to augment this they give personality tests to gather more data to find someone's ruin, that is, the item the person feels needs to be improved. They do this not to help the person but to manipulate them into giving scientology money.

"Substance abuse and legal problems"ófrom what can be seen, scientologists do not use drugs nor drink too much. Instead, they go in the opposite direction and ban everything, including many medicines that may help.

So we've found a good fit for scientology. So are we done? Not quite yet. People can have multiple diagnoses, so let's follow that model and look what else we can find.

Narcissistic personality disorder:
"Believing that you're better than others"óHomo novus
ìFantasizing about power, success and attractiveness"óThe Ideal Org, Clearing the Planet
ìExaggerating your achievements or talentsîócheck out the changing number of scientologists over the years. Fifteen years ago they claimed 15M, but now it seems to be 8M. Either way, the number is likely under 50,000.
ìExpecting constant praise and admirationîówell they do have the only workable tech, after all, so they just want to be acknowledged.
ìFailing to recognize other people's emotions and feelingsîótelling heinous lies about innocent people falls under this category, So does the disconnection policy.

Cluster C is characterized by anxious, fearful behavior. The specific disorders are avoidant, dependent and obsessive compulsive disorders, and one of those describe scientology:

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
ìPreoccupation with orderliness and rulesîóthey stand in line at musters by rank and department, they have white glove inspections. The staff have rules so all pervasive there is a detailed description on how to dust. And if you don't do it according to the rules, you can get in trouble, even have your pay, what little there is, lowered or taken away for not dusting properly.
ìExtreme perfectionismîóanything short of perfect in scientology can become an ethics matter. See above.
ìDesire to be in control of situationsîóthey talk about control a lot, control of bodies, people, groups. They want to be the one in control of the rest.
ìInability to discard broken or worthless objectsîódon't know about worthless objects, though those bronze busts of LRH seem to fit the category, they certainly have a hard time discarding old and outmoded tech, such as the Telex, to send messages.
ìInflexibilityîóthey have the perfect tech, and nothing else can possibly matter, so yeah, they are as inflexible as any ritual obeying group can be. No possibility of improvisation. It's against the rules.

Scientology manages to earn one diagnosis in each of the three cluster areas, with paranoid in Cluster A; antisocial and narcissistic in Cluster B and obsessive compulsive in Cluster C.

We come to the unmistakable conclusion that scientology needs therapy. Modern methods, such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy have been shown to be very useful for helping people with personality disorders recover and lead a full life.

But in truth, just getting away from the bad influence is the first best step any scientologist can make to become a whole person again.

Anyone know a good therapist?
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An Observer
An Observer
Garrettsville, OH
16 months ago: The non Scientologists are the ones who are crazy. If you do not submit to Scientology, the evil psychs will set Xenu free to destroy the planet

I'd tell you about it, but I'd rather have you hear it from L. Ron Hubbard himself


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVqN4ivQ_TM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwDKg5K3in8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6P4YV6CfI0

Give your life to Scientology or pay the consequences.
16 months ago: Why not go further, if a person can psycho-analyze a group of millions of people, why not do the same for other groups? All psychology does is assign a status, anyway. With no idea whatsoever of improvement, with no route toward improvement, with no scientifically proven foundation for assigning a status. Psychology simply creates a myth, a paradox. You are (this). Therefore we turn you over to the psychiatrists who will drug you until you agree.

Example - you are "paranoid", therefore we'll drug you until you're not.
skeptic
skeptic
Canada
16 months ago: The last comment, by Terryeo, reflects the Scientology world-view; perhaps Terryeo is a Scientologist. L. Ron Hubbard impressed lots of people by his criticism of psychiatry, which at the time he first made it, in 1950, was substantially valid. However psychiatry, unlike Scientology, continues to advance. There are many different therapeutic techniques (despite your assertion that psychology has "no route toward improvement") including such things as cognitive and behavioral therapy, and even if a patient is treated only with drugs, the drugs have improved a lot in recent decades, being more effective and having less severe side-effects. Many people are helped by these drugs.

One of the ironies of the whole anti-psychiatry crusade of Scientology is that Scientology itself can't do anything for mentally ill people and indeed, it is the official policy of the Church that mentally ill people cannot receive Scientology services (since they are "troublesome"). So if Scientology can't help these people, why does it try to get in the way of those who can? What are the mentally ill supposed to do, drop dead?

Anyway, the reason why we should recognize that Scientology is actually a personality disorder is not so that all Scientologists can be put away in mental institutions and placed under psychiatric care, which would be impractical if only for reasons of cost. It's just good to know. It explains a lot about the cult. And if you do have occasion to talk to a cultist, you won't be surprised at the irrational reactions that you get.
16 months ago: Psychology doesn't pretend to analyze groups of people, even though you seem to think it should. Although you might find "profiling" here and there in government.

My personal view, which I posted just earlier, is what I've found. However, should you wish to employee me as a spokesperson, I might be interested in the position. What do you say, I want at least $15.00 an hour and expenses.
skeptic
skeptic
Canada
16 months ago: No deal.
16 months ago: $15.00 an hour? Not only are you a deluded nut-job but you seem to still be living in 1972.

Watch MisCabbage, His script-writer, and a bloke all read from the same script for 3 hours and... say nothing. LRH is there also(!) listen to his posthumous insane ramblings that say... nothing.

(Big prize for anyone who can count the number of people "Walking quickly and looking busy" in the Org vids lol)

Culty cannot pull this vid from Russia. Dimwits.

LRH Birthday Event 2009:

Part1: http://rutube.ru/tracks/1789594.html?v=bb7822cbd0376d208f773f3cbf4343f9

Part2: http://rutube.ru/tracks/1790222.html?v=2f7354f0c02efbde50750e807207d75b

Part3: http://rutube.ru/tracks/1791343.html?v=cccc08d6bdab84ae17c24500e2212a95
16 months ago: I'll tell you what, people. I've seen the edges of psychiatry up close and personal. I'll tell you what. It is based on observation. The psychiatrist observes the patient. Period. His diagnoses is based on observation and on observation alone. Sometimes he will question other people to find out what they have observed. And that is it, there is no test, no chemical analysis, no cat scan. Diagnoses and prescription are based utterly, on opinion. Granted, it is an opinion with university study behind it, but is nonetheless, opinion and only opinion.

Conceivably this could work. But, and here is the zinger, many psychiatrists receive money from the drug companies. The very drug companies whose pills they prescribe. In broad, general terms, the more pills they push, the more the drug companies reward them. These are not direct payments, these are not percentage sorts of payments. Instead these are invisible - to - the - casual - observer sorts of payments. They are "consulting fees" and "speaker fees" and so forth. But it works out, the more widely popular a psychiatrist can make psychiatry's pill pushing, the more the drug companies reward the psychiatrist.
16 months ago: "I'll tell you what, people. I've seen the edges of psychiatry up close and personal"

No **** Sherlock, we would never have guessed you had mental problems.

So the evil "psychs" are paid to drug us all. mmkay.
Alternative is what? oo, I know, hand over all money/life to a cult. lol.
16 months ago: The alternatives include fresh air and sunshine, some time away from the environment that prompts depression. The alternatives include finding a group of people that you like to be with, partying a little, and finding ways to enjoy life. These are natural anti-depressants. The alternatives include finding the single thing that you feel worse after, and removing it from your list of things to spend time with. Get some space, see life growing, watch children play, anything fresh and new that seems light and fun.
skeptic
skeptic
Canada
16 months ago: I think that there are a lot of people who would benefit from fresh air and sunchine, being with friends, partying, watching children play, etc. But people with serious mental illnesses such as schizophrenia are not going to recover that easily. They need psychiatric help. You may not believe me, based upon the glib assurances of the late L. Ron Hubbard. But if you were to get to know some actual schizophrenics, you might learn something about the real world. It's not what LRH told you it is.

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